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Andrew Bonar - Indwelling Sin
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« on: June 26, 2007, 10:01:16 AM »

Andrew Bonar - Indwelling Sin 
       


Indwelling sin

And I John saw these things and heard them.
And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not : for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book ; worship God.
Rev. 22: 8, 9
'I, John ' — I, who was just a fisherman on the Lake of Galilee, called to follow Christ— 'I saw all these great things.' Then we may see great things yet, as John did! It is interesting how many traits of John's character we find in this wonderful Book of Revelation. He tells us that when he saw his Master after so many years, he fell at His feet as dead, as much with delight as with fear. Then he tells us he 'wept much' when no one was found worthy to open the book; and how honestly he tells things about himself that are not to his credit. It is a great proof of grace when a man can do this—not only say he is a sinner, but tell things he did that were wrong. Our text tells us of the second time that John did this. The angel peremptorily commands him to rise: 'Why worship the servant when the Master is here?' From this incident let us learn the doctrine of indwelling sin in a believer's heart.

I. Indwelling sin as a doctrine.—A believer is entirely free from guilt. God cannot point to a spot of sin on a soul that has believed on Jesus. The believer is also free from the dominion of sin; but he is not free from the existence of sin in the heart. Never till we see Christ as He is shall we be free from the presence of sin.

'One look of Jesus as He is
Will strike all sin for ever dead.'

'If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves.' If we say the root of sin is out of us we deceive ourselves. In Rom. 7:21 Paul says, 'I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.' 'Law' means a powerful tendency, like a law. There are always remains of the old nature, and in the old nature there is always deceit. 'It doth not yet appear what we shall be.' We are only on the way to complete deliverance.

II. Indwelling sin illustrated by our text.—John was now about ninety years old. For seventy years he had walked close with God. We should have thought that indwelling sin was dead in him. But indwelling sin is often benumbed, but not dead. Paul had no sooner come down from Paradise and the third heavens than God says, 'It will be needful to send him a messenger of Satan, lest he be exalted above measure.' God did not say, 'I will strike his sin dead,' but 'I will keep it down.' There was indwelling sin still in Paul's heart. This disciple John, who had got on so far in the divine life, tells us that when he had been allowed to listen to and see, all that is recorded, and had heard the invitation to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, he fell at the angel's feet to worship him. Soon after this, John was walking through the New Jerusalem and saw its wondrous walls, its gates of pearl, the redeemed in their robes of white. Would you not have thought that his indwelling sin would be withered up now? 'When I heard these things, I fell down at the feet of the angel,' etc. He had forgotten for a time the glory of the Master, wondering at the glory of the servant. We need to watch to the very end. Satan knows there is tinder in your heart, and he tries to throw in a spark. The beloved John is not perfect yet, though he has been through New Jerusalem.

III. Why does God leave a root of sin in our heart.— He does not take away the existence of sin, but He does take away its dominion. It is like Psalm 110:2: 'Rule . . . in the midst of thine enemies.' The consequences of indwelling sin being left in us are—
(1) To keep us from leaning on our personal holiness. We cannot point to one day of perfect obedience, to one work of perfect holiness. Till the last moment we have to stand upon the blood.
(2) To make us press onward to the day of Christ. 'When He shall appear, we shall be like Him.'

IV. How we are to deal in the meantime with this indwelling sin.—Sin in a believer is as really sin as in any other. I do not know that indwelling sin waxes weaker and weaker. But here is what we are to do.
We are to think of the indwelling Spirit; for as surely as we have indwelling sin we have the indwelling Spirit. Then we have help always at hand. It is like Christ in the ship. We think often we must meet trouble or temptation alone, forgetting the indwelling Spirit. He is not asleep, He is there in the ship, but He waits till we come to Him, and, as it were, awake Him. It is thus we get the victory over indwelling sin.
Another way is to feed faith. 'They overcame by the blood of the Lamb, and by the Word of His testimony.' Nothing startles the devil like holding up the blood. He flees from it. Give every now and then a look to Christ, and if you look to Him He will look to you. Be of good cheer, believer! In spite of indwelling sin we shall not be shut out of heaven, and at length He will present us 'without fault before the throne of God!' 
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 01:33:10 PM »

Amen. Totally true.

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I. Indwelling sin as a doctrine.—A believer is entirely free from guilt. God cannot point to a spot of sin on a soul that has believed on Jesus. The believer is also free from the dominion of sin; but he is not free from the existence of sin in the heart. Never till we see Christ as He is shall we be free from the presence of sin.

Right - God does not condemn us for having original sin within us. Granted, we are inherently guilty because of it, being born into sin and inheriting the guilt of tainted flesh, but if we've been born again, we are washed and cleansed by the precious blood and God holds no thing to our charge so long as we walk in the Spirit. "There is therefore no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit" -Rom. 8:1. He only condemns us if we fail to crucify the flesh through which such indwelling, original sin manifests itself and gets the dominion over us. No true Christian will walk in bondage to any known sin, because, thank God, we have the victory through the risen Christ! If one claims to be a true Christian, but is in bondage to known and continued sin, then it is obvious that such a one does not have the victory thru Christ and hasn't been risen again together with him to walk in the newness of life.

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III. Why does God leave a root of sin in our heart.— He does not take away the existence of sin, but He does take away its dominion. It is like Psalm 110:2: 'Rule . . . in the midst of thine enemies.' The consequences of indwelling sin being left in us are—
(1) To keep us from leaning on our personal holiness. We cannot point to one day of perfect obedience, to one work of perfect holiness. Till the last moment we have to stand upon the blood.
(2) To make us press onward to the day of Christ. 'When He shall appear, we shall be like Him.'


Original sin is never eradicated from the flesh, but through the regeneration of the Holy Ghost, we get the dominion and victory over it while we take up our cross daily and walk in the Spirit. And priase God that the day is coming when all those who worship Him in spirit and in truth will be fully and finally redeemed from the taint and presence of sin to be glorified as a shining one to be as He is!
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 12:16:27 AM »

Josef...Amen!!! 

Patrick...btw, I think this is what you were saying in another post and I questioned it, but I'm pretty sure it was just a difference in terminoloy.

I definitely believe the doctrine of original sin (Its scriptual!!), but I believe this doctrine is a major problem with modern Christianity.  They are over emphasizing original sin and forgetting about sin and repentance.  By over emphasizing this one can easily fall into the trap of invite Jesus into your heart to fix the original sin state, etc.  That can be preahed along with understanding we need to crucify the flesh and it seemingly flows.  In other words, Adams fault, let Jesus fix it and we have the ability to crucify the flesh.  What about SIN???  What about repentance???  Peter (and every example) said to repent from your sins, not sinful nature from Adam. 

People have focuse on original sin and have made crucifying the flesh optional (have recognized the ability, but not the neccesity) and have LEFT OUT REPENTANCE.  Actually without repentance, crucifying the flesh can ONLY be preached casually. 

Only disagreement with Andrew Bonar is this:

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Why does God leave a root of sin in our heart.— He does not take away the existence of sin, but He does take away its dominion. It is like Psalm 110:2: 'Rule . . . in the midst of thine enemies.' The consequences of indwelling sin being left in us are—

(1) To keep us from leaning on our personal holiness. We cannot point to one day of perfect obedience, to one work of perfect holiness. Till the last moment we have to stand upon the blood.
(2) To make us press onward to the day of Christ. 'When He shall appear, we shall be like Him.'


First of all I don't believe God actually left a root of sin in our heart -- This entirely goes against the contexting of the Word.  I believe Adam's is responsible for this.  Adam is to blame, not God.  This was an EFFECT of the fall, not God creating something here to somehow benifit us in the future.

Robert
 
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